A Wide-Ranging Conversation on Power Animals, Healing, and the Shamanic State of Consciousness
I had the pleasure of joining Vince Kern and Joe Luther on the Friends in Wonder Podcast for a long, generous conversation about shamanism, healing, and the spirit world. Vince and his wife studied with me both in person on Kauai and online, so this was a warm exchange with people who know the work from the inside, and who asked exactly the kind of grounded questions a newcomer would want answered.
Over the course of the conversation we covered a great deal: how I came to this work after leaving corporate finance, what actually happens in a shamanic healing session, why I teach a drug-free method, and how the agreements we form in early childhood quietly shape our lives. The heart of the episode, though, is power animals, what they really are, how they show up, why they present the way they do, and how anyone can begin to build a relationship with them.
A few threads I especially enjoyed exploring with Vince and Joe: why a power animal is the spirit of an entire species rather than one individual creature, why the most important skill in this work is learning to ask rather than assume, and why, contrary to what people expect, shamanism is not about getting out of your body but about getting more fully into it.
If this conversation resonates, you can learn this work beginning with Level 1 - The Fundamentals of Shamanism.